Shows where to put T7C camera to obtain focus on split. Requires extension tube.
Having to take a picture, as I need to pinch the 1.w5 inch extension tube to try and obtain focus on my guide camera tonight!
I have had 2 x QHY6 cameras attached to my CCDSPEC spectroscopy but as this camera uses an ASCOM driver only one camera can be seen by my laptop at a time which means that in order to use a camera as well in the eyepiece port for finding and guiding on faint object whilst spectrums are taken I need to use 2 x laptops at same time (one for spectra and one for guide camera). What a nuisance! Today u have changed the QHY6 camera in the guide port to a T7C camera (clone of ZWO ASI120MC – uses same drivers) and using a 1.25 inch extension tube focused on the spot and confirmed that both cameras can be used simultaneously in my Dell Windows 10 laptop.
I have also picked up another of Damian’s habits = which is labels over everything!
The maker of my CCDSPEC (Ken Elliott) has been servicing it – he has installed a new mirror and slit and sent me photos of test spectra.
He sent me following message on 18/8/2019:
From: Kenneth Elliott
Sent: 16 August 2019 10:44
Last night I had some success with your CCDSPEC on my 150mm f/5 refractor with M57 the ring nebula.
I attach both FITS files and some JPEGs .
The first file is M57 seen on the slit but not going down the slit aperture. This was a 10s exposure with your QHY6
The second is th FITS file of the same
the next is the spectrum which is 10 minutes, but all but the first minute was cloudy, so its amazing you can see the nebula at all
It shows the sky subtracted spectrum too
The lines are H beta 4861 [OIII] 4959 5007 and H alpha 6563 and [NII] 6584
this is probably only a couple of minutes data
the other stuff is moonlight and light pollution
I’ll try and get some better data if we even get clear skies but it does look very promising.
First image shows M57 Ring Nebula off the slit:
Following screenshot shows the ring nebula & slit:
Following screenshot is a spectrum of the Ring Nebula taken with my CCDSPEC:
And in the following spectrum, the spectrum of the surrounding space has been subtracted from that of the Ring Nebula to leave the spectrum of the Ring Nebula:
The following are photos from the CCDSPEC finding/tracking eyepiece port.
Under the eyepiece is an inbuilt lens to help focus light onto the finding/tracking eyepiece (removed in this photo below):
The following photos below are magnified photos of the surface of the lens that can be seen in the picture above (the first picture taken through 10mm eyepiece focused on the surface of the lens, the next two through a reticle eyepiece (my Meade XY adjustable illuminated eyepiece likewise focused). I am concerned that there appears to be marks on this lens directly in line of sight of the eyepiece, possibly affecting my ability to observe fainter objects during spectrometry sessions – although worth noting that this will not affect the ability of CCDSPEC to collect light for the spectrometer.as this lens is only for the visual lens port:
Photos below are of the eyepiece above focused on the spectrometer slit:
Yesterday the sky cleared after raining for a large part of the day. Rhys and I tried to take a spectrum of the Ring Nebula M57 using a new combined flip mirror/off axis guider/hand-guided on Manfrotto video mount. Unfortunately, the experience showed clearly that these nebulae are very faint and we will need to use GOTO power-driven mount to keep the object on the spectroscopy slip whilst taking spectra of these objects.
We did obtain a spectrum of Vega (for calibration), a spectrum of Arcturus and for the first time a spectrum of Sadr.
Sky Watcher Equinox Pro 80mm OTA, with finder scope with illuminated eyepiece, Teleskop Express combined flip mirror/off axis guider and astrometric eyepiece, CCDSPEC with Meade XY adjustable illuminated eyepiece. The experience last night indicated another XY adjustable illuminated eyepiece would be a better choice to the astrometric eyepiece on the combined flip mirror/off axis guider and in fact a flip mirror might be a better choice to the combined flip mirror/off axis guider as will direct more light to the eyepiece (below):
Calibrating spectrum of Vega (using know Vega lines):
Calibration information on Vega lines I have determined previously (see https://roslistonastronomy.uk/re-analysis-of-vega-spectrum-from-4-8-2018):
Vega from 8/6/2019:
Arcturus (spectral class K1.5IIIFe-0.5):
With an apparent visual magnitude of 2.23, Gamma Cygni is among the brighter stars visible in the night sky. The stellar classification of this star is F8 Iab, indicating that it has reached the supergiant stage of its stellar evolution.
We initially guided to Sadr using green lazer on finder show – carefully aligned so point of lazer coincided with CCDSPEC slit – this meant that we did not need to use illuminator on eyepiece – the green lazer was sufficient to show up the guiding reticule on the illuminated eyepiece and a lot fainter than the red light on that eyepiece – we demonstrated that this is an effective method for guiding to fainter stars.
Sadr – this time spectrum without using green lazer:
This is my proposed CCDSPEC guiding setup based around my Sky Watcher Equinox Pro 80mm refractor. Directly behind the OTA is Teleskop Express Off Axis Guider/Flip Mirror with T2-2″ eyepiece adapter, into which the CCDSPEC is inserted.
Orion XY adjustable 9mm illuminated eyepiece in the CCDSPEC currently and an astrometric illuminated eyepiece in the off axis guider/Flip Mirror, although I intend to later change this for another Orion XY adjustable illuminated eyepiece.
Alongside the main OTA is a finder with helical focused and another illuminated eyepiece. This can be adjusted via its mounting rings to point at the same object in its cross hairs as seen in the CCDSPEC.
Hopefully, this setup will allow me to get a spectrum of M57 Ring Nebula!
The CCDSPEC spectrometer works well on stars and other bright objects such as planets but I am finding it difficult to obtain a spectrum of the Ring Nebula and other fainter more dispersed objects because these cannot be seen in the observing eyepiece on the spectrometer.
I am toying with idea of using a flip mirror but Ed Mann had excellent idea yesterday which I am also considering – mounting a parallel finder scope on the Sky Watcher Equinox 80mm or DS Pro 72mm scopes I use with the CCDSPEC. I can then not only observe fainter objects using this second scope but by aligning it carefully with the slit and cross hairs on the illuminated eyepiece on CCDSPEC I can then use the second scope to guide the scope whilst the spectrum is being taken. This is similar to the method used in astrophotography to guide for camera.
Might be chance to try this idea out tonight……I can see clouds thinning and Vega has appeared!
After Angella and Alan and Chris left tonight, I was packing away my equipment when Jupiter became visible – having previous been obscured by cloud – so I took some quick spectra before it disappeared again.
I thought I could use the above to calculate the speed of rotation of Jupiter at the surface but I was wrong.
Surface speed from my data = 1/4 (Doppler shift in practice needs to be counted 4 times) x 300000km/s (speed of light) x change in wavelength (1200A above)/wavelength (5780A)
= 15570 km/s.
Real speed of rotation: Since Jupiter is a gas planet, it does not rotate as a solid sphere. Jupiter’s equator rotates a bit faster than its polar regions at a speed of 28,273 miles/hour (about 43,000 kilometers/hour). Jupiter’s day varies from 9 hours and 56 minutes around the poles to 9 hours and 50 minutes close to the equator. (From coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/ask/200-Which-planet-spins-the-fastest-)
My own calculations =
Jupiter’s circumference = 439,264 km
Rotation period (length of day in Earth days)
Jupiter’s day = 9.8 Earth hours
So surface speed = 439,264/9.8 = 44,822 km/hour = 12.45 km/s
So I am way out!!
Looking up methodology for calculating surface speed my method is wrong (hence incorrect result) – the real way to do it requires high resolution spectrograph and measure the spectrum at the equator. This spectrum will show a tilt due to doppler shift and from that SINGLE spectrum the speed of rotation at the surface can be calculated from the amount of tilt. See https://www.shelyak.com/planets-rotation/?lang=en for more details.
Identifying spectral lines on Jupiter:
I have attempted to do this using diagram as my source from https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Jupiter-Spectrum-The-white-boxes-represent-the-Fraunhofer-lines-and-colored-boxes_fig2_283695178
Not sure whether I have identified the correct lines!
Angela, Alan and Chris Ford came to my house tonight and did a brilliant job calibrating CCDSPEC spectrometer on Equinox Pro 80mm, and hand guiding it to obtain three spectra. Amazing for first ever try!
The team (Chris Ford, Angella, Alan, Andrew):
Angella controls the imaging software while Alan hand guides the scope:
Calibrating the CCDSPEC (Angella, Alan and Chris):
The image below taken with Samsung S7 phone hand held at eyepiece of CCDSPEC spectrometer shows compact fluorescent bulb with spectrometer slit and cross-hairs of illuminated eyepiece:
Compact fluorescent bulb spectrum:
Compact fluorescent bulb spectrum profile in RSPEC after calibration (after calibration shows angstroms of wavelength rather than pixels on x-axis):
Angella used the following graph to calibrate the spectrum of the compact fluorescent bulb – it shows known wavelengths of specific lines in the length (prepared using data in Wikipedia):
Vega (Angella and Alan) – the profile showing the Vega spectrum compared to that of reference library A0V spectrum shows close match with hydrogen Balmer lines:
Polaris (Angella and Alan) – much fainter and more difficult to obtain high quality spectrum tonight – nevertheless some significant lines can be seen to match on the rather noisy spectrum obtained tonight:
Deneb (Angella and Alan):