Not a fan of either , but very surprised to get startling crystal views. Took over x200, some cracking details and fun to observe . This 35 year old Vixen 102 f10 punches above its weight as a classic achromatic.
So good that I put the phone over the eyepiece and took a few snaps. I have a digital cam holder somewhere. Seems strange that small eye relief eyepieces give results ,against bigger and longer eye relief ones, under ,
clear skies ! Nick.